Comments on: Business Process Execution Language for Web Services BPEL and BPEL4WS 2nd Edition http://bpelforum.com/62/business-process-execution-language-for-web-services-bpel-and-bpel4ws-2nd-edition/ Business Process Execution Language (BPEL) Mon, 23 Apr 2012 08:23:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Packt Publishing http://bpelforum.com/62/business-process-execution-language-for-web-services-bpel-and-bpel4ws-2nd-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-154 Packt Publishing Wed, 28 Apr 2010 06:30:10 +0000 http://bpelforum.com/?p=62#comment-154 This is a response from the Publisher, Packt, in reply to the two reviews below... <br /> <br />The code examples in the book have been written for the Oracle BPEL Process Manager version 2.x, which has been one of the few working BPEL engines at that time (2004, former Collaxa engine). In the mean time, Oracle BPEL Process Manager has been upgraded to version 10.1.2 and code examples required some minor modifications. New code examples have been available from the publisher's web site (www.packtpub.com). If Oracle BPEL Process manager is installed appropriately, code examples definitely work. <br /> <br />Please notice that the 2nd Edition of the book is about to be published in January 2006. The 2nd Edition has been improved, particularly with the introduction of SOA and BPEL, and coverage of advanced features of Oracle BPEL Process Manager and Microsoft BizTalk. <br /> <br />This answers the complaints in the last two customer reviews, thank you. <br /> <br />Packt Publishing Rating: 5 / 5 This is a response from the Publisher, Packt, in reply to the two reviews below…

The code examples in the book have been written for the Oracle BPEL Process Manager version 2.x, which has been one of the few working BPEL engines at that time (2004, former Collaxa engine). In the mean time, Oracle BPEL Process Manager has been upgraded to version 10.1.2 and code examples required some minor modifications. New code examples have been available from the publisher’s web site (www.packtpub.com). If Oracle BPEL Process manager is installed appropriately, code examples definitely work.

Please notice that the 2nd Edition of the book is about to be published in January 2006. The 2nd Edition has been improved, particularly with the introduction of SOA and BPEL, and coverage of advanced features of Oracle BPEL Process Manager and Microsoft BizTalk.

This answers the complaints in the last two customer reviews, thank you.

Packt Publishing
Rating: 5 / 5

]]> By: Vinicius C. Carvalho http://bpelforum.com/62/business-process-execution-language-for-web-services-bpel-and-bpel4ws-2nd-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-153 Vinicius C. Carvalho Wed, 28 Apr 2010 04:12:12 +0000 http://bpelforum.com/?p=62#comment-153 This is a good book for those seeking an initial view of process and BPEL. The book covers the basics of BPEL profile 1.1, and until chapter 4 is a good resource of information. I don't like books that binds the technology to an specific implementation, and that's the case of the book after chapter 4, it binds examples to Oracle BPEL process servers (which I've already used in production and find it a poor implementation) and Microsoft Biz Talk (never used it). It would be much better if more real world examples could be provided instead of specific providers mechanisms for deploying, creating etc. This should be a readers choice, and the product manuals take care of that. I'm a great fan of the author, have read many of his books, this one had everything to be on my top shell, but, if only there was no more chapters after the 4th. <br /> <br />Just my 2 cents. Rating: 3 / 5 This is a good book for those seeking an initial view of process and BPEL. The book covers the basics of BPEL profile 1.1, and until chapter 4 is a good resource of information. I don’t like books that binds the technology to an specific implementation, and that’s the case of the book after chapter 4, it binds examples to Oracle BPEL process servers (which I’ve already used in production and find it a poor implementation) and Microsoft Biz Talk (never used it). It would be much better if more real world examples could be provided instead of specific providers mechanisms for deploying, creating etc. This should be a readers choice, and the product manuals take care of that. I’m a great fan of the author, have read many of his books, this one had everything to be on my top shell, but, if only there was no more chapters after the 4th.

Just my 2 cents.
Rating: 3 / 5

]]> By: chien nguyen http://bpelforum.com/62/business-process-execution-language-for-web-services-bpel-and-bpel4ws-2nd-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-152 chien nguyen Wed, 28 Apr 2010 01:23:06 +0000 http://bpelforum.com/?p=62#comment-152 This book introduces bpel using oracle bpel engine beyond that this book fall short of introducing the bigger picture in terms of soa. the book also needs a revision. this book also suffers too much repetition and poor editing. Rating: 2 / 5 This book introduces bpel using oracle bpel engine beyond that this book fall short of introducing the bigger picture in terms of soa. the book also needs a revision. this book also suffers too much repetition and poor editing.
Rating: 2 / 5

]]> By: Sara Ronald http://bpelforum.com/62/business-process-execution-language-for-web-services-bpel-and-bpel4ws-2nd-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-151 Sara Ronald Wed, 28 Apr 2010 00:51:31 +0000 http://bpelforum.com/?p=62#comment-151 An excellent book for beginners and for those who want to get familiar with advanced BPEL features. First chapter is a little weak but chapters two and three are great. This book is also a must for everybody working with Oracle BPEL Process Manager (chapter four). The examples are great. Highly recommended. Rating: 5 / 5 An excellent book for beginners and for those who want to get familiar with advanced BPEL features. First chapter is a little weak but chapters two and three are great. This book is also a must for everybody working with Oracle BPEL Process Manager (chapter four). The examples are great. Highly recommended.
Rating: 5 / 5

]]> By: John Matlock http://bpelforum.com/62/business-process-execution-language-for-web-services-bpel-and-bpel4ws-2nd-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-150 John Matlock Tue, 27 Apr 2010 22:31:29 +0000 http://bpelforum.com/?p=62#comment-150 There have been an entire bowl of alphabet soup regarding various kinds of distributed processing systems. All of them, in their time, achieved a certain level of usage. None of them has done much to change the basic way we do business communications. That may be changing. <br /> <br />The development of the internet from a little system to exchange technical papers to a worldwide set of sites, all speaking internet protocol, have generated the expansion of broadband services all across the world from New York City to small towns in the third world. The basic ability of an individual to seek information has subsequently been expanded with XML so that information can be exchanged between computers of different types with different operating systems easily and without having to understand the characteristics of the computer at the other end. XML is a very open standard and it has some weaknesses. Enter BPEL to establish a set of standards, some common ways of doing things, and a generally more organized approach. <br /> <br />BPEL servers have been developed by, and there are URLs to: Oracle, Microsoft, IBM, BEA, Sun and at least four open-source implementations. <br /> <br />While this is a beginners book in so far as BPEL is concerned, it is presumed that the reader has some experience with XML, web services, and some kind of web services developent system such as J2EE or .NET. Rating: 5 / 5 There have been an entire bowl of alphabet soup regarding various kinds of distributed processing systems. All of them, in their time, achieved a certain level of usage. None of them has done much to change the basic way we do business communications. That may be changing.

The development of the internet from a little system to exchange technical papers to a worldwide set of sites, all speaking internet protocol, have generated the expansion of broadband services all across the world from New York City to small towns in the third world. The basic ability of an individual to seek information has subsequently been expanded with XML so that information can be exchanged between computers of different types with different operating systems easily and without having to understand the characteristics of the computer at the other end. XML is a very open standard and it has some weaknesses. Enter BPEL to establish a set of standards, some common ways of doing things, and a generally more organized approach.

BPEL servers have been developed by, and there are URLs to: Oracle, Microsoft, IBM, BEA, Sun and at least four open-source implementations.

While this is a beginners book in so far as BPEL is concerned, it is presumed that the reader has some experience with XML, web services, and some kind of web services developent system such as J2EE or .NET.
Rating: 5 / 5

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